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Evolution by Kevin Lee

Posted by guffyconservative on 10/19/2009

I was watching Expelled and when I heard the segment from this song (Evolution) I had to stop watching and search the Internet for it. Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a song that’s had little exposure, has a one-word title, a nobody artist, and the title of a controversial issue that’s also in the titles of more famous songs?

Evolution by Kevin Lee:

I didn’t crawl out of the ocean. I didn’t come from no monkey.

Science tends to forget; evolution’s just a theory.

They present it in the textbooks and on animal TV

Like it’s fact. But, tell me, were you there twelve million B.C.

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And if you’re right and there’s no God, I guess we’ll all know before too long

If there’s nothing to believe in after we’re gone.

If you’re right I’ll eat my words and you can disregard this song.

But I’d hate to be in your shoes when you find out that you’re wrong.

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When did evolution stop? ‘Cause fish still swim in the sea.

And last time that I checked, apes still lived in trees.

They’re not our distant cousins. And I don’t care what you say;

Giraffe’s neck is long because God made it that way.

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And if you’re right and there’s no God, I guess we’ll all know before too long

If there’s nothing to believe in after we’re gone.

If you’re right I’ll eat my words and you can disregard this song.

But I’d hate to be in your shoes when you find out that you’re wrong.

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Now it doesn’t take a genius to know there’s more than this.

But I’ll put my faith in the Word of God – not in scientists.

There’s nothing wrong with science. There’s too much good to list.

But you can stop trying to teach my kid to become an atheist.

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And if you’re right and there’s no God, I guess we’ll all know before too long

If there’s nothing to believe in after we’re gone.

If you’re right I’ll eat my words and you can disregard this song.

But I’d hate to be in your shoes when you find out that you’re wrong.

Yeah, I’d hate to be in your shoes when you find out that you’re wrong.

I also found a YouTube video:

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obdaddy Conclusion

Posted by guffyconservative on 10/07/2009

I’m not going to go into all the non-logics of my discussion with obdaddy that I missed yesterday, but I just have to mention the ending of his last message. It was in response to my last message, wherein I cited a few bits of evidence in favor of the Bible (specifically, archaelogical and genetic). His response was this:

…Had you come back with personal anecdote, perhaps an honest if subjective discussion on your personal reasons I might be more willing to continue. Genetic evidence? next you’ll be saying that the Theory of Evolution is simply a theory. Like saying a bat is simply a winged mammal that baseball players use to hit a ball.

I’m pretty confused by that last sentence – he seems to be attacking my ability to tell the difference between a bat animal and the baseball equipment. Whatever – anyway, what I wanted to draw attention to was the first sentence. Essentially, what he’s saying is that he’s put off by me citing facts. He would be more willing to continue the discussion if I just told a personal story. This is the same guy who has consistently told me that I am afraid of or blind to logic. He claims to be more logical, while criticizing me for using facts instead of a personal story to support my view. And FYI, whether or not you think the Theory of Evolution is true, it is a theory. Just as it is not possible to prove God’s existence because it requires faith, so it is impossible to prove evolution because humans have not existed long enough to get a sufficient sample of biological development to prove evolution. And without proof, a theory is no more than a theory.

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obdaddy

Posted by guffyconservative on 10/05/2009

I left a couple of comments on a YouTube video of the Alan Grayson thing and got suckered into a debate with this guy obdaddy. So far, we’ve gone back and forth on waterboarding, torture, religion, the media, Rush, Crowder, Obama, liberalism, conservatism, and a good bit more. Essentially, he’s a bitter middle-aged man who can’t send a message or leave a comment without being condescending (concerning our age gap), insulting people (“tea baggers”), or something of the like.

It’s almost funny how he calls me a “zombie” and a “sheep” when he regurgitates (or at least appears to) stuff I’ve heard many, many times. Let’s just go through a quick rundown of some of what he’s said to me.

  • He really harped on Rush being a druggie, despite me trying to explain that Rush got hooked on what was originally necessary medicine (or as necessary as painkillers can be). He also consistently ignored the fact that Rush kicked the drug.
  • He told me to stop mindlessly listening to Hannity, Beck, and the like. I told him I’ve watched Hannity maybe three times and I’ve never even heard or watched Beck, or any of a number of other people he mentioned. He proceeded to call me a liar. To which I say, why would I lie about something like that? I told him I listen to Rush! Why wouldn’t I “admit” to listening to Beck or Hannity if I did? It makes no sense to me.
  • He said that waterboarding is torture because the waterboard-ee doesn’t know that it’s relatively harmless. So, apparently, we’re now allowing the ignorance (or lack thereof) of terrorists to dictate what we define as torture.
  • He accused me of being in a cult when I said I believe that the overwhelming majority of “Christians” are not Christians at all. However, I gave him specific Biblical reasons for this. He replied by saying that not everyone believes the Bible. To which I said that that doesn’t matter! Do you have to believe the Qur’an in order to use it to determine whether or not someone’s a Muslim? No.
  • He called pretty much every sort of media “snake oil salesman” (Rush, ESPN, liberal news, Disney, etc.), apparently because their motivation is selling adspace and stuff. I’ve asked him if he hates capitalism or something, but no response to that yet.
  • He says that I’m just a young idealist who’ll learn better as I grow. Does that ring just plain false with anyone else? Let’s see, the demographics show that a much bigger proportion of middle-aged people are conservative compared to the number of college students who are conservative. Seems to me that it is far more likely that my peers will grow to be conservatives, rather than us few conservatives growing to be liberals.
  • He essentially called liberalism the ideal of being benevolent, of helping society’s weak and claimed that conservatives construe health care for all as “evil.” I asked him what he, personally, does to help society’s weak and gave a few examples of what I’ve done, pointing out that liberals would actually have laws passed forcing others to care for society’s weak, rather than caring for them themselves. He hasn’t yet cited a single thing he’s done to care for the weak. He also told me not to try and pass off missionary work as anything other than condescending and rude. Someone’s got to explain that one to me.
  • He said Tea Partiers are racist and hateful but has yet to supply a single example (although I did ask). He claims he’s not calling me racist but says I “protest too much” when I gave him the short version of what’s in my letter to Janeane Garofalo.

Any thoughts?

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Crowder Reads Hate Mail

Posted by guffyconservative on 05/29/2009

Crowder reads some hate emails:

I’ve actually seen some large Mexicans, but I don’t know if they were mixed or not… large Guatemalans, now there’s a myth. The tallest Guatemalan is right around seven feet. That’s tall, sure, but that’s the tallest person in Guatemala! The average Guatemalan is under five feet tall.

Oh, and for those of you who are like me and don’t have / don’t watch TV, that last bit was a reference to The O’Reilly Factor or some nonsense, according to the comment thread on this video at IMAO.

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